New Telegram audio transcripts show how Proud Boys panicked when members started getting arrested after the Capitol riot
Proud Boys members Ethan Nordean and Zachary Rehl approach the US Capitol. Carolyn Kaster / AP
Telegram calls received from the FBI show how the Proud Boys quarreled after the Capitol Uprising.
Audio transcripts were published in the court records of Seattle Chapter Leader Ethan Nordean.
They show members worried about arrests and others angry that some even went to DC.
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The members of Proud Boys argued in private conversations after the Capitol uprising, as recently published audio transcripts show in a court case by a group leader.
Ethan Nordean, a 30-year-old described as the "Sergeant of Arms" of the Proud Boys Chapter in Seattle, was arrested in February on charges of obstructing or disabling formal proceedings, aiding and abetting, and knowingly entering a restricted building. according to the Associated Press.
The most serious charges against Nordean, who is also known under the pseudonym "Rufio Panman", provide for a prison sentence of up to 20 years.
'We are f --- ed'
Court documents released Tuesday, detailed audio files found by Nordeans cell phone investigators exchanged over Telegram, an encrypted intelligence service that has become popular with far-right groups.
During the conversation, people who appeared to be other members of Proud Boys expressed concern about the ongoing investigations and arrests of those involved in the Capitol riot, while others punished members who participated in the riot.
Ethan Nordean at the Capitol Rising. Ministry of Justice
"We're f --- ed ... they're coming for us," said one person in one of the audio files.
There was also a discussion of speculation about how solid the federal prosecutors are. One person commented that "Feds don't charge until they have a lot of evidence," and when they have "enough evidence, they won't offer much plea".
"They're going to throw us the damn book," said one person in one of the audio files.
There also appeared to be a lot of inter-group conflict in the audio transcripts, with some individuals unhappy that the members were going to Washington, DC at all.
According to the transcript, one person said he was confused about what was happening in Washington because he thought they voted not to go.
One person said the "Warboys" went to DC and it "completely crashed and burned on us ... good job with communications, good job with security, good job with legal ... I mean f- - ing 'Tifa looks like professionals compared to us, "in an obvious reference to the Antifa movement.
Another audio file contained a comment that Nordean was "lost in the sauce" and that the top leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, should resign. Another person said that members who are charged should leave leadership positions.
Another photo of Ethan Nordean at the Capitol Rising. Ministry of Justice
The Proud Boys appeared to be fragmented after the Capitol Rebellion, especially after Tarrio was found as an FBI informant for many years.
The Daily Beast reported in February that since this revelation, regional branches of the Proud Boys had distanced themselves from the central leadership.
Tarrio was arrested prior to the Capitol Riot on an unrelated charge of burning a Black Lives Matter flag in a black church. Prior to the Capitol Riot, Nordean was known for fighting left-wing protesters in Portland, Oregon, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Nordean said he no longer supports Trump
Nordean himself interfered selectively in the conversation to defend his actions. He said he guided others so that they would not go astray, the transcript reads.
"I understand where we are in the frat. I understand we took some risks that we shouldn't have taken. We did some things that we shouldn't have done. Ok, but they were done and we have to learn from them, "Nordean said according to the transcript.
Nordean also said, according to the transcript, that he was no longer a Trump supporter and regretted going to his rallies. He said he believed he was fighting for a secret plan that didn't materialize and didn't approve of things going wrong.
Nordean is currently in jail awaiting trial. He was initially released from custody, but U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly overturned that decision in April, saying he was dangerous and that no conditions were appropriate for his release, according to the AP.
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